013 - Through the Practical Lens - Coaching Hacks with Angela Taverna & Anna Kandler

00:00:01: Today, we check in at our hotel and were looking through the practical lens as dive into something truly remarkable.

00:00:09: The seven powerful coaching hacks!

00:00:12: A book on how Legosterious Play transforms one-to-one coachings And today We have two guests joining us.

00:00:19: Please welcome Anna Kandler from Germany and Angela Taverna From Switzerland Two facilitators who made about four hundred kilometers apart and created Something Powerful together A book that bridges two worlds – coaching and lego-series play.

00:00:37: Together we explore how building with bricks becomes magic when words fail, How these seven Coaching Hecks work online or offline And why Anna and Angela literally coached each other With their own methods.

00:00:51: Let's step inside.

00:00:53: Take a closer look.

00:00:55: Welcome

00:00:56: to the Bricks boutique Hotel.

00:01:11: Okay, hello everyone!

00:01:16: First of all my colleague Matthias.

00:01:18: Hi and we have guests in our next episode And then other guest are Anna Kantler and Angela Dawerna.

00:01:32: They're a guest because I'm going to show this now on camera but will mention that for listeners as well.

00:01:40: They wrote together a book, which in the eight is called The Seven Powerful Coaching Hacks.

00:01:49: Of course using the lego series play methods and we like to have conversation with them about those seven hacks And yeah little bit of background.

00:02:02: therefore We make it as interactive possible.

00:02:10: that will do for the introduction, Mathias?

00:02:14: Absolutely.

00:02:15: I'm happy we have questions this time!

00:02:18: Yes... We did some preparation.

00:02:20: very good!

00:02:22: Okay okay so well let's get Anna and Angela in the podcast if I may both of you ladies what is about this book?

00:02:39: why share with us a little bit of the background, your ideas on how you came to write together.

00:02:48: Also I think me-together because one was in Switzerland and another is Germany.

00:02:52: so... How did that happen?

00:02:54: The question is very good!

00:03:01: Because it has many layers.

00:03:06: It's one is the interest of coaching and lego-series play to bring it together.

00:03:11: The other is Switzerland, then Germany... To make the end meet!

00:03:18: And um ...the other is the passion for both For the project to write a book together, Anna and me Also to make these two worlds meet as in coaching, a league of serious play.

00:03:37: And I think Anna we met two years ago.

00:03:42: is it possible?

00:03:44: Yeah, something like

00:03:48: that.

00:03:48: So... ...I was searching for League Of Serious Play workshop and so if i found Angela there.. ..and so we meet!

00:04:01: Yeah, we met and I think it was so.

00:04:04: I wrote you an email And a few minutes later We had online meeting.

00:04:09: i think

00:04:11: yeah Right away right away um four to six hundred kilometers far away but there Was the connection?

00:04:21: An instant connection and we Um, I think as As we met in Frankfurt To our workshop Ikigai We had also an understanding of lego-series play is possible in coaching, and we have to do together something off our own.

00:04:45: And then Michel came into the play.

00:04:48: you made a proposal.

00:04:52: so write a book if you think that your idea was right.

00:04:56: So okay, we write a book and then it's all the history.

00:05:00: You know Michelle?

00:05:02: We had an idea at the beginning of twenty-twenty five And in June you have the manuscript.

00:05:14: You receive the manuscript from German and its whole history From there.

00:05:26: I didn't know that you planned this podcast session so long, making

00:05:34: them writing a book

00:05:35: and inviting them afterwards.

00:05:38: That's pretty good, Michel!

00:05:40: Wow!

00:05:41: Matthias, who needs time?

00:05:47: It's like wine... I know your are little bit into champagne.

00:05:52: Really good things need times Yeah, but we're there.

00:05:56: And indeed I remember it was Frankfurt and as the kind of workshops that led to also community meeting that we had in Frankfurt.

00:06:06: Um yeah wow oh okay!

00:06:09: There you see if people meet each other and connect and there are ideas... That's great.

00:06:16: so seven powerful hacks for coaching.

00:06:28: What is a bit of the hacks?

00:06:31: Of course, I know the book and i know there are seven topics in it that you can use for coaching.

00:06:40: And There Are Seven Workshop Designs In It Where Literally A Coach Or A Really Good Facilitator Can Work With Participants Coaches On The Specific Topic.

00:06:58: Can you walk us through the seven topics or mention something short about it, Matthias?

00:07:06: May I just before we jump into that... ...I would love to ask one question up front.

00:07:12: Because lego series play usually is a technique for groups and teams right where have several people?

00:07:19: so i wonder why its good idea combine coaching Where people usually are alone.

00:07:24: Well, you have good coachings as well but I think about the Coaching with single person and legacy is play.

00:07:30: why would you love to combine that?

00:07:32: What did you bring there?

00:07:36: yeah Yeah That's a good question.

00:07:37: And we sometimes You know this situation there is a coachy and He can cannot put his issues into words.

00:07:52: Yeah, you know that situation.

00:07:55: And here we use lego serious play and he can build his issues... ...and don't need words for it!

00:08:03: That's the magic why it is so powerful to use Lego Serious Play in one-to-one coaching sessions.

00:08:16: You

00:08:16: give them that reflection time just to build?

00:08:19: Yes exactly

00:08:22: yes.

00:08:23: You have also other material in coachings.

00:08:28: We have drawings, we have images and other bricks not only labor series play but also figures to make systemische Aufstellungen.

00:08:41: so you'll get a lot of materials or methods because this is one tangible method change something, it's not built to stay in this shape or form.

00:08:57: You may see what is the issue of building a model and you can easily change one brick.

00:09:06: then the problem is solved.

00:09:08: so on that model...

00:09:12: Exactly!

00:09:15: ...you have more possibilities to change the perspective of the model.

00:09:23: You can, you can... Change the perspective?

00:09:26: You can change a break?

00:09:29: Yes!

00:09:29: You have so many possibilities.

00:09:32: So many approaches for solutions and situations as well as for the sensory channel of the coachee

00:09:43: with the bridge.

00:09:43: Okay right okay

00:09:46: yeah.

00:09:49: So back here to kind of my question, also give our viewers and listeners a bit of an insight.

00:09:57: What are the seven topics about those seven hacks?

00:10:02: This is a little test.

00:10:03: let's see if you know them.

00:10:07: First of all we had a problem making only seven methods But we had a restriction from you, Michel.

00:10:21: Really?

00:10:24: Yeah yes!

00:10:25: I may remember your words.

00:10:29: Use the number seven... You

00:10:31: know?!

00:10:33: Do you remember this?

00:10:35: Yes okay and we have little problem to make only seven but in the course of We had to approach the number seven, we also have restrictions and limitations.

00:10:52: And I think that we did a good job of making only seven methods which you can use isolated one by one all together in order for us to make our journey with Kochi on top!

00:11:12: on top of this Michelle.

00:11:15: As you know, six hundred kilometers between Anna and me we also built all these methods one by one to each other And we coached each other in his way.

00:11:29: Yes!

00:11:30: This was I think this bonding between Anna Me.

00:11:36: so We either look at each other virtually And we know what were thinking and this is great because.

00:11:46: This is not only a coaching Lego series playbook, which has also our process.

00:11:51: you can do online on line remote with the coachy and I think these are the biggest win of this book.

00:12:03: so like English say your drinking your own champagne.

00:12:06: Yeah, okay

00:12:09: No that's the expression right when you're using the same stuff.

00:12:13: That your that you are preaching.

00:12:17: Walk to talk but I prefer they drink your own champagne.

00:12:27: This is on.

00:12:32: this is the right sentence.

00:12:33: walk the talk.

00:12:35: It's as we do the hacks to each other and it was you felt a magic, yeah?

00:12:43: You've had the magic.

00:12:44: And so far apart from each other but so near together that is magic.

00:12:55: I can't find another word.

00:12:59: Yeah, I think that's a really good thing.

00:13:02: To do this with the legal series by to do it online and in person.

00:13:08: yeah It is all fine And the hacks work right?

00:13:13: I think Angela we did some good work together.

00:13:16: Yes

00:13:17: i think you can be really proud of us.

00:13:23: on remote We never met once.

00:13:30: Yes, but the seven steps you're asking for... You begin at the beginning and end in the end!

00:13:45: There are many resources there.

00:13:48: questions about your beliefs, about your values.

00:13:51: About your strength?

00:13:52: About your issues?

00:13:54: About you feelings all in between and for them.

00:14:01: from the coach's perspective it may also have to one or other.

00:14:10: You know

00:14:11: repetition

00:14:13: same but dive into make those models talk about, reflect about and do it.

00:14:23: There are all isolated steps.

00:14:29: so

00:14:33: I'm pretty sure that our listeners are eager to know how the seven hexes are called if you want.

00:14:49: We like a joke, but helped them out.

00:14:51: So of course we do the build where part.

00:14:54: that is also skills building so that coaches have an awareness on how to work with these bricks give meaning create metaphors and stuff like that.

00:15:06: then there's this step of move and partly movement And there is a step of deciding to decide.

00:15:21: There's a hack which is called Motivate, this one that is called Establish and then the last one is To Strengthen Yourself and The Ideas or Whatever You're Working With.

00:15:36: So these are the seven described in the book In the Practical Guide Leading to a question, if you reflect on those seven and you said... You know?

00:15:50: ...you worked your way through.

00:15:52: And you exchanged both sides to literally also feel about what the ideas are which were written Which one was for the both of you or kind of the most challenging one To describe Or maybe build upon or make the right questions?

00:16:10: Do we have a reflection on that?

00:16:14: I think it was recognized.

00:16:17: This was really difficult to find the right questions because it's a...

00:16:23: Really big thing,

00:16:25: yeah.

00:16:25: And um and It is about finding your inner beliefs.

00:16:31: so you have to be aware of which question that are asking Because there some moments How can we say if they're really difficult online?

00:16:49: sometimes the coach needs with this issue some personal help.

00:16:54: And that was a difficulty, I think to find right questions and take care of the coach here also yeah.

00:17:04: Okay?

00:17:04: Yeah, Angela agrees maybe not already

00:17:09: agreeing um with Anna uh and i was the one who had head to build his model in yeah telling me what to do or making those questions and me myself.

00:17:25: And I looking at the bricks, thinking oh okay there we are going now but also recognize my inner beliefs make it in one sentence Do It In One Sentence To Make The Essence Of My Beliefs about forty, fifty bricks and to see my belt build.

00:17:53: So my imagination of the world means what are my values?

00:17:59: And I was flashed.

00:18:02: Anna

00:18:03: you're

00:18:03: really making this with me.

00:18:06: yeah!

00:18:07: I'm coaching since two thousand seven Making those questions and I am building my beliefs.

00:18:17: And my belt built in about forty bricks.

00:18:21: This is flabbergasted, you

00:18:23: know?

00:18:23: Right!

00:18:23: Yeah yeah okay Matthias we should do this exercises as well one time.

00:18:31: Yeah

00:18:32: be fun

00:18:33: One time But not now because it's difficult.

00:18:38: note that the thing is It's difficult now on a podcast right.

00:18:41: so thats why i'm saying

00:18:43: afterwards, you know and actually we meet in two weeks which is irrelevant for this podcast but hey let's do a little bit of building.

00:18:52: I bring the book

00:18:56: so it's okay

00:18:58: absolutely yeah

00:19:01: that's not an issue at all.

00:19:05: what i also read where The building exercises are?

00:19:17: I felt at the beginning a kind of relatively short, you know literally sometimes a few minutes and And we talked a little bit about it.

00:19:28: But Why is that?

00:19:31: You know why do you give people like maybe only two or three minutes to build a little model and let's say not eight minutes Or where they have a lot time to built into reflect?

00:19:45: You know, some thinking about it.

00:19:46: Maybe out of the experience that you have as well?

00:19:51: Sure building

00:19:52: time!

00:19:54: Yeah because um...you have to let your hands work.

00:19:57: and if you spend more time in building your issues with bricks how do say Verstand is getting in?

00:20:10: Okay, right?

00:20:10: Yeah.

00:20:14: And that's not what should happen.

00:20:18: You only let your hands work without Your mind.

00:20:24: Right so it literally.

00:20:25: you know a bit of the time pressure That forces your coachee Not to start thinking and then building What they think but literally stop building.

00:20:38: Alright yeah good

00:20:39: Yeah, you have to build what you feel here and see what your thinking.

00:20:44: That's it yeah And Angela I don't know how long is It till?

00:20:49: Your mind gets in only a few minutes.

00:20:53: Yeah

00:20:54: Only if you mean the mind that the mine should kick-in afterwards.

00:20:59: when we are talking We're when they are reflecting.

00:21:02: together with this one day coaching in it begins.

00:21:07: so the

00:21:07: yes

00:21:08: The other questions which are also essential to get your truth, I think.

00:21:17: But the building is done in a few minutes.

00:21:22: Okay so

00:21:23: roughly that if i understand correctly.

00:21:28: So you're asking question like build your values and how do see world?

00:21:35: And give them three or four minute.

00:21:38: Yeah

00:21:42: Okay, not even four right three minutes.

00:21:45: Wow okay got it.

00:21:47: so It's really yeah.

00:21:52: You know how you imagine your world?

00:21:55: You know it intuitively.

00:21:57: you don't have to think about make a plan and laid out And then build.

00:22:03: So if you are living in your world, you know better than me, so let's go there.

00:22:10: Yeah

00:22:11: right okay?

00:22:11: So you really force them to switch off the brains.

00:22:14: that's what you do

00:22:15: yeah.

00:22:15: That's

00:22:17: cool.

00:22:22: I would really love to see an example of how this works but this be possible

00:22:29: because i have one more question.

00:22:32: indeed

00:22:33: well then go with a

00:22:37: First a question

00:22:38: then sure.

00:22:39: All right, okay because one of the things when writing something is who do you feel or hope it's your audience?

00:22:49: So how are you writing this book?

00:22:51: for?

00:22:53: I could imagine for coaches but can also facilitator use?

00:23:02: Anyone is interested in the book?

00:23:04: Would it be a good idea that they try to do with or if there's kind of pre-condition, you know.

00:23:14: So who's your audience?

00:23:17: It was published by you Misha so I think we hope some facilitator will buy this book and make some methods co-cheese or participants, but also coaches who are willing and also eager to go with other material than drawings.

00:23:44: Or images or pictures you know?

00:23:47: And I think it's really feasible for both of those target groups To make some experience With this and also improve these methods.

00:23:59: So these are only proposals.

00:24:04: The questions, the methods and steps in it And I think every coach has his own writing His own footprint.

00:24:17: This is okay for us.

00:24:19: It's not a bible but its only a proposal to make better To make coaching process better.

00:24:28: Not for us, Anna.

00:24:32: Yeah so if I may add because i also say a lot of times when i do trainings you know is that this legacy display method.

00:24:42: it's a fantastic tool also for coaches next to the instruments and tools in methods they already use.

00:24:50: um and already explained something at the beginning But a coach is for me and I definitely want to say that it's a profession.

00:25:03: So, it means that facilitators who buy the book or use coaching techniques do as a facilitator you know?

00:25:17: Or make sure in any way they become professional coaches with some training education whatever you need.

00:25:25: But there is a difference between the coaching and facilitating.

00:25:28: And also, if you are professional coach that doesn't mean it's easy to play with league or serious players.

00:25:38: It's not a toy!

00:25:41: They get a lot of meaning from your coachy.

00:25:46: You're kind-of stuck when you have no awareness the tactile approach and effect of lego series play it can have on people.

00:25:56: So, in both sides I mean that's literally something.

00:26:00: um...that i say very often you know take yourself serious certainly take your audience serious as a coach uh..in a profession or as a facilitator for the lego-series play method.

00:26:14: And Literally this book I feel when i read it and you had your ideas, the first kind of manuscript.

00:26:22: It addresses both sides because with The Hacks brings things to the table that either as a coach can take further and get more depth in or broaden whatever needs And as a facilitator, it brings so much insights for the coachee to take in next step.

00:26:49: Whatever that step is or what is needed and... That's why I really like myself about this book which addresses such an easy way of guiding people through the process but in an easier way it addresses things which helps the coachee definitely step forward.

00:27:13: So this was a little bit of commercial talk to bring their book forward, but I really believe it and that's why i also published it.

00:27:26: um Tia she had a question about something showing.

00:27:31: remember that?

00:27:31: Hi!

00:27:33: I wanna do an example.

00:27:34: oh okay how does this work?

00:27:38: so ladies for example

00:27:41: Yeah.

00:27:42: Okay, yeah

00:27:43: before starting the podcast Angela and we had an exercise for Michelle and Matthias.

00:27:50: they were doing one hack

00:27:52: from our book

00:27:54: And it's The Hack Navigate Your Happiness.

00:27:59: They have to build models.

00:28:02: Michel has too had to build a model From his Prospective happiness I think your happiness in future

00:28:10: in the next

00:28:12: few days or one day, something like that.

00:28:15: And he built a model from what will make him happy and future?

00:28:21: But here's Bill Model... From A Moment of Happiness In The Last Few Days, retrospective Yeah!

00:28:33: Let's see what models are telling us.

00:28:37: who wants to start

00:28:42: Future or with the past?

00:28:44: We don't

00:28:45: have future and then look back.

00:28:46: And stuff like that, okay.

00:28:48: So this is very exciting for all the listeners who will have no Video.

00:28:54: or what our images because I'm now trying to explain to you What i just built.

00:29:00: um so I build on a little plate.

00:29:04: Um there are some different color green bricks which in a way aligned to my other business, sorry for that.

00:29:14: In the little tower so it goes up and on that little Tower there is um... That-that Little Brick can turn.

00:29:24: So It moves around kind of like a windmill but not on a horizontal Way.

00:29:30: And

00:29:32: On that There's A little mini figure.

00:29:34: there Is a flag?

00:29:36: And the minifigure represents me.

00:29:42: The flag is like really that moment of happiness and, of course... ...the flower just a kind of emphasizes that.

00:29:52: on this side there was an orange brick which has something to do with the country I'm coming from.

00:30:02: yeah so what does it represent?

00:30:06: Well, actually Anna I cheated a little bit in terms of the moment i was reflecting on will happen at the end of the month.

00:30:16: So A Little Bit Further Away But The Joy Of The Preparation And Thinking About That Moment At The End Of The Month that is Actually Completely There Now Until The End of The Month and Hopefully A Bit Afterwards Because...I'm Gonna Visit In Bristol, South England the very spectacular musical The Greatest Showman on Earth.

00:30:52: And whatever you think of musicals it's up to you but I love that musical!

00:31:01: I loved a story behind which is about imagination.

00:31:05: I love the music, it's very energizing and i think we'll be there with a bit of family.

00:31:14: We're going to have two-and-a-half hours something like that.

00:31:18: hopefully complete arousement.

00:31:21: enjoy fun singing clapping magic.

00:31:30: That is my little model as said enjoying thinking about it, preparing about and certainly going to experience.

00:31:41: Thank you for that

00:31:42: little

00:31:44: exercise!

00:31:45: Yeah Michelle

00:31:47: which resources are strong in this model?

00:31:50: Which resources of yours is stronger than mine?

00:31:54: What

00:31:55: do you mean with exactly resources?

00:31:57: but...

00:32:01: something in which resources are donating you energy to go for it?

00:32:11: To go for this moment.

00:32:14: Well, that's maybe not so much in the model and what brings... well, sometimes we have to search the story, the engagement of people.

00:32:34: The joy is literally the energy that in this little tower I built will...is lifting me up and not only at that moment because it's going to be a crazy moment i'm quite sure but literally preparation if you think about songs or music It lifts me up, it energizes me.

00:33:01: That's the resource

00:33:02: I see not only the passion for music but also here to be together with your family and enjoy those moments.

00:33:14: This is a very big resource of yours that you know I have

00:33:21: to strength.

00:33:21: Yes It's not something, certainly you know on a business level I kind of talk or show a lot.

00:33:29: But the people who know me they know their importance of my family yes?

00:33:35: Exactly and so this is where your energy comes from This what lifts up literally because we've seen you lift it up.

00:33:48: And so I think this, if you can put the resource also in other projects and they know you do.

00:34:00: But in a coaching process now we go search for these resources and bring those resources into other processes together with a coachee where there is another method that comes to move all of them.

00:34:20: As you can see, you have to search for these resources but they are there.

00:34:26: They're not...they are there and so music is a big resource of yours.

00:34:32: I know your also listening music while driving in the car?

00:34:39: Yes!

00:34:41: You remember?

00:34:43: These are resources this strength where energy comes from and they are big.

00:34:50: And you have to take this, bring it in other projects or another

00:34:57: processes.".

00:34:58: That's

00:35:00: about five minutes of free coaching Matthias!

00:35:03: You see?

00:35:05: Not bad... Now your wrong.

00:35:07: This is why we made them write a book.

00:35:09: now I got it.

00:35:15: I think it's important to tell how Michel looks like and see.

00:35:20: you can see a bright smile in his face while he is telling this moment of happiness.

00:35:28: Yeah, look!

00:35:29: He is really happy now.

00:35:39: Anna you go through with Matthias?

00:35:41: So yeah, okay.

00:35:44: It's your turn.

00:35:45: tell us about you model moment of happiness in the past.

00:35:51: Okay so this was quite easy because This is a situation that just happened yesterday?

00:35:57: So what we see here as a complex model?

00:35:59: it There's a lot of bricks and it doesn't end lots of colors And there isn't really meaning at only shows such as A complex situation.

00:36:07: That's the most part.

00:36:10: And there were three little bricks, and this is showing Kerstin Müller to be as Eichel Pusch on myself.

00:36:18: We've been in a stage yesterday... ...and the complex situation was an event with one thousand people,... ..and we made them all do LEGO Serious Play!

00:36:30: This was all embedded in a story, so this is why there's a huge figure which looks down on us.

00:36:37: So it describes the story of how it was imbedded and another brick that has the same size as ours with an eye represents one thousand people who are looking more or less down If you want to see it, if you compare the stage of course.

00:36:59: The stages higher but still feels like that they are looking down on us at a stage and yeah this was unbelievable because I love being in a stage... Being on the stage per se is the night.

00:37:18: It's a great thing, but being on a stage and sharing things which are important... Which I think are important!

00:37:24: This what it really amazing for me.

00:37:27: That was what i love.

00:37:31: Questions to the model?

00:37:36: Well maybe same question you know?

00:37:40: You were coaching.

00:37:43: He can

00:37:43: also

00:37:44: because he has the

00:37:46: book.

00:37:58: Well, so it's the in fact that what I just shared right?

00:38:01: So being on a stage and sharing things which i think are important Which might inspire people.

00:38:08: This is one thing they really love to do And not be there with others.

00:38:14: It's especially these two guys.

00:38:20: If we are doing something together this is really it's joy, its pleasure and yeah.

00:38:26: We try to conquer the world.

00:38:29: It sounds a bit big but that still.

00:38:31: I mean.

00:38:31: come on!

00:38:32: A workshop with one thousand people?

00:38:33: i don't know if someone ever did that.

00:38:36: so...

00:38:38: It's great it's extraordinary absolutely absolutely and can imagine the kick you get out of it.

00:38:48: And we also see some inner beliefs, Matthias.

00:38:51: You shared with us your inner beliefs because I think... ...I might think that sharing is a belief of yours to share something good with others.

00:39:05: So this

00:39:05: isn't

00:39:06: only resource it's the belief To make the world better to make those people, to enable those people.

00:39:13: To empower those people?

00:39:14: To do something with their hands... Yeah

00:39:18: absolutely!

00:39:20: And I think i heard also a belief of cooperation.

00:39:25: you are believing in cooperation with good people.

00:39:28: yeah see yeah absolutely

00:39:29: this is all about the model with twenty thirty bricks and we have seen it.

00:39:31: You know

00:39:33: what I mean.

00:39:40: So this is coaching.

00:39:43: No,

00:39:43: absolutely and one thing is the reason why I became a trainer because i want to bring people forward right?

00:39:50: And as well to cooperate with them too... Because you can do amazing things on your own but you could do unbelievable things if you cooperated with other people.

00:40:01: that's my firm belief.

00:40:02: That's

00:40:05: an nice quote!

00:40:06: All

00:40:09: right, I can write a book about it.

00:40:13: You want to talk?

00:40:15: Yes

00:40:15: you know i said i could write A Book About It if i would find an editor who knows.

00:40:23: okay afterwards let's talk afterwards all right.

00:40:28: so i'm wrapping it up and also did this podcast.

00:40:33: um so Anna Angela kind of a last reflection or remark on our talk, but certainly also in the book and how to move forward.

00:40:46: Are you planning workshops?

00:40:48: Are you planing other things?

00:40:49: are your planning more books?

00:40:50: I don't know.

00:40:50: if

00:40:56: we stay with number seven there

00:41:02: is still six things for

00:41:03: us.

00:41:03: yeah that's

00:41:06: We will cooperate a long time together, I think.

00:41:14: Perhaps one idea perhaps is to start some workshops online... ...to bring it out the seven coaching hacks

00:41:24: and

00:41:25: workshops for coaches and facilitator.

00:41:32: That would be nice!

00:41:35: Any ideas or remarks from your side?

00:41:38: Yes, I think there is a big potential in not only doing some workshops.

00:41:44: I think the workshops are essential to promote books but also bring those walls closer together meaning making not just workshops and educational programmes for facilitators who want to become coaches And also in the other world to get, but you are working with this.

00:42:14: To get your facilitator trainings in Switzerland and Germany all over the World You know?

00:42:20: But I think we have to do a specific program for facilitators who want to become coaches not only one day... I'm thinking big!

00:42:36: Thank you.

00:42:38: And so I think, four to ten days or five to ten day's program with coach and with facilitator want to become... So this is a big goal!

00:42:48: But there are seven steps described how to get there.

00:42:55: let make

00:42:58: it.

00:43:06: I'm getting really busy.

00:43:08: The good thing is that i have nothing to do, so that's a good thing.

00:43:13: No but you don't have to postpone Bristol.

00:43:16: So this is the good one?

00:43:18: Oh no!

00:43:19: That's not going to happen whatever Even if i have to swim through the uh To the island...I am gonna be there You're

00:43:27: gonna be There

00:43:29: Yes..

00:43:30: I would love to see it And I think I think we really need to rush off... ...to the reception, because people are waiting.

00:43:41: As far as i can see over there.

00:43:43: so..

00:43:43: I think indeed you know in our hotel We have do some other things as well and So it was a pleasure again.

00:43:53: Thank You both for joining us And sharing For having a really nice conversation with eachother And do a little bit of promotion for the book, which is available in German and English.

00:44:11: Yes!

00:44:12: Both languages... Okay let's wrap it up.

00:44:29: Thank you all for having us!

00:44:31: Bye bye!

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